(JT:  Jim Tagg, interviewer)

CH:  Often people are looking for what has changed and I think as historians we do say ‘Ya, well things have also stayed the same.’  Right, continuity is an important part of the narrative.  And I think that, you know, there is a lot of continuity.  But, to me what hasn’t changed, and I think again, other people may disagree, this may be a feature of the fact that I have been at the U of L for a long time.  But to me what hasn’t changed is that there is still a sense of community at the U of L amongst faculty and the staff.  And I think one of the things that certainly I noticed at the U of L that was different from other universities I was at, was the way in which the staff at the U of L are integral to ... I know they are integral to the success, but the way, I think, I hope that people recognize it.  Certainly, as a Dean you recognize that, you know the University functions, obviously it functions because the faculty do their job, but I can assure you it functions because staff do their job and often in an unsung way.

JT:  You really learn that as a ...

CH:  Absolutely.  And I think, maybe we could do a better job, but I do think the U of L has maintained that community of ... you know, people say the U of L is a family and that’s the kind of think people say, but I think there is some truth to it.  And I think, because I have come all through that, I can’t speak for the newer generation but to me that’s remained the same we still see it even though we have grown.  We haven’t grown so much that we have forgotten that we are all in it together.  And we are ultimately all in it for the students.  And I, again some people may laugh at that, but I think that it is very true.  And so for me that is the enduring and the endearing feature of the U of L.  I mean, it’s grown physically obviously, and campus is much more like a campus now than it was when I first arrived, which is okay.  I think there is excitement and having more students, I think, creates more energy perhaps.  But in many ways, to me,  it is still the same place.